50 Episodes. 1 Massive Rebuild. Darren Mass & Nat Berman Tell All

Episode 50. That’s right, fifty. And what better way to mark the moment than to bring in the two people I’ve probably name-dropped more than anyone else on this show, Nat and Darren from Brandbilt. This episode isn’t just a celebration. It’s a full-circle, behind-the-scenes look at what the last year has meant, what we’ve built, what broke, and why we kept going anyway.

From DMs that started with “Hey, remember me?” to building a platform that actually supports our community instead of boxing it in, we’re breaking down how Brandbilt went from an idea to a thriving space filled with real conversation, real collaboration, and real growth. And yeah, we talk about School. We talk about the billing nightmares. We talk about the churn. We talk about what happens when you stop listening to the wrong people and start building what actually works for you.

This one is raw, honest, and full of the stuff most people try to hide behind polished funnels and templated BS. It’s a reflection on transformation. Mine, theirs, and the community’s. And it’s also a reminder that the best systems aren’t perfect. They’re intentional. So if you’re building something, breaking something, or trying to figure out what the hell is next, this one’s for you. Welcome to episode 50. Let’s go.